Done with HP7!
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amethyst73Minor incoherent discussion behind the cut - I'm looking forward to real-time conversations with many of you, and now I can *finally* go back and read people's LJ comments about it!!!!
I must admit to being slightly puzzled that a search in Google Images for 'harry potter crucifix' didn't turn up any fan-art - or am I looking in the wrong place?
I started seeing serious Christ parallels when Harry went back to Hogwarts and was received in triumph by the D.A. "We're gonna fight, right?" Ohhhhhhh, serious parallels to Jesus' entry to Jerusalem immediately prior to his crucifixion.
Also peeved that Benedict claims that the HP books are the work of the devil, or something along those lines. He *clearly* hasn't read the last one! [EDIT: I was not correct on this one. I glanced at the results of a Google search, and was led to the wrong conclusion because I didn't actually follow the links and read the articles. Thank you,shoutingboy and feir_fireb for pointing this out to me!]
Wondered partway along when the trio seemed kinda stuck: Hey, Harry grabbed Mad-Eye's magic eye from Umbridge's office - why not use it to peek inside the Snitch? When in doubt (or when you're out of ideas), after all, it's always a good idea to poke through your inventory and see if you've got an item that could help you out.
We were interested to see how many of our guesses (admittedly, not all of them were original with us) that we made prior to reading the book happened to be true. Here they are:
• Harry himself may be a Horcrux (not original with us)
• Snape will redeem himself by doing something noble by the end of book
• Draco might switch sides (this was the only one that one can clearly argue did NOT happen)
• Neville will do something heroic,
• As will Luna, or at least something cool
• A member of the Weasley family will die
• Harry will not die
• Neither will Ron or Hermione
• Victor Krum will reappear
• R.A.B. in the locket note is Sirius’ brother Regulus. (also not original with us)
I started writing summaries of chapters, and keeping track of guesses and whether they were proved correct/incorrect. I kept up with it for a while, and finally quit after Chapter 22. It was clear that it was just taking way too much time. I did have fun writing some of the chap summaries, and will post the more amusing ones here later.
I imagine there's huge amounts of fanfiction out there. How exactly did Remus and Tonks meet their deaths? What are all the grownups doing as jobs at the close of the books? Further adventures of Harry's generation? Way obviously, adventures of Hogwarts: The Next Generation?
I started seeing serious Christ parallels when Harry went back to Hogwarts and was received in triumph by the D.A. "We're gonna fight, right?" Ohhhhhhh, serious parallels to Jesus' entry to Jerusalem immediately prior to his crucifixion.
Also peeved that Benedict claims that the HP books are the work of the devil, or something along those lines. He *clearly* hasn't read the last one! [EDIT: I was not correct on this one. I glanced at the results of a Google search, and was led to the wrong conclusion because I didn't actually follow the links and read the articles. Thank you,
shoutingboy and feir_fireb for pointing this out to me!]Wondered partway along when the trio seemed kinda stuck: Hey, Harry grabbed Mad-Eye's magic eye from Umbridge's office - why not use it to peek inside the Snitch? When in doubt (or when you're out of ideas), after all, it's always a good idea to poke through your inventory and see if you've got an item that could help you out.
We were interested to see how many of our guesses (admittedly, not all of them were original with us) that we made prior to reading the book happened to be true. Here they are:
• Harry himself may be a Horcrux (not original with us)
• Snape will redeem himself by doing something noble by the end of book
• Draco might switch sides (this was the only one that one can clearly argue did NOT happen)
• Neville will do something heroic,
• As will Luna, or at least something cool
• A member of the Weasley family will die
• Harry will not die
• Neither will Ron or Hermione
• Victor Krum will reappear
• R.A.B. in the locket note is Sirius’ brother Regulus. (also not original with us)
I started writing summaries of chapters, and keeping track of guesses and whether they were proved correct/incorrect. I kept up with it for a while, and finally quit after Chapter 22. It was clear that it was just taking way too much time. I did have fun writing some of the chap summaries, and will post the more amusing ones here later.
I imagine there's huge amounts of fanfiction out there. How exactly did Remus and Tonks meet their deaths? What are all the grownups doing as jobs at the close of the books? Further adventures of Harry's generation? Way obviously, adventures of Hogwarts: The Next Generation?
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Date: 2007-09-23 04:50 am (UTC)Did he really say that? Somehow it doesn't match my impression of him. I don't suppose you have a link? (I've seen him taken pretty badly out of context a few times.)
I assume we're talking about Pope "J-Rat" Benedict 24, not some other Benedict.
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Date: 2007-09-23 12:23 pm (UTC)It is good, that you enlighten people about Harry Potter, because those are subtle seductions, which act unnoticed and by this deeply distort Christianity in the soul, before it can grow properly.
This is hardly a formal pronouncement, and Popes are generally pretty laissez-faire about anything that isn't really formal or deeply entrenched (this is a major cultural difference between our rule-of-law culture and, well, Italy). It's also not entirely clear on what level he's engaging Kuby. My guess is the more important point is that the pope is worried about Kuby's specific (and ramped-up) claims that unsupervised kids who become enamored of make-believe witchcraft could pursue the real thing (which it makes sense for a pope to take at least somewhat seriously) and the lack of any substantial, overt references to a religious or spiritual life (which has been one of the pope's driving concerns with regards to the religious denuding of Europe). Given very limited data and the fact that the pope hasn't made any speeches about it, I wouldn't infer anything more than that. For all we know, he hasn't actually read the books.
Pope-watching is a very subtle business, and even the people who do it a lot and very closely tend to get a fair number of things wrong This is especially true for Benedict. JPII was a trained actor (literally) who knew how performances would play on stage. Benedict is an academic by profession and I think naturally assumes people will work with more intellectual subtlety than they (especially the media and the papal rumor mill) often do. The Italian press especially tends to make the most outrageous speculations based off of the tiniest hints and second-hand rumors and pronouncements.
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Date: 2007-09-23 02:54 pm (UTC)Thank you for pointing out my big mistake on this one!
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Date: 2007-09-23 03:06 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-09-23 02:56 pm (UTC)